Breakdown 6-26-25
A heavy metal riff plays for a few seconds before fading away into the sound of a ring bell.
“Hey everybody, this is Dan Nichols, and once again you’re listening to Hold for Hold, professional wrestling’s first source for all things Supreme Championship Wrestling. As always thanks for choosing to listen. I know there’s a few hundred of us wrestling shows out here, and I’m grateful for every single click.
My guest today is someone else who is grateful for every single click, but not for a podcast…. No. For her website. Speaking out publicly for the first time since her return to SCW at Retribution, joining me now is former World Champion and four time Tag Team Champion…. Kandis!"
Canned applause plays for a few seconds.
“Thanks for agreeing to speak with me, Kandis.”
“Of course, of course. And thank you for contacting me with the opportunity. You’re right, I do appreciate every single click on my new website, ‘KandisView-dot-com.’ That’s Kandis vee-eye-ee-doubleyou. Thanks for the cheap plug.”
“Nothing about you is cheap.”
Kandis laughs. “Aw, thanks Dan.”
“And with that now mentioned, you know I have to ask… what happened to your old site? The one with Jakob Sparx?”
Kandis sighs. “Well, that’s a great question. Its part of the reason why I was away from the ring so long, and I don’t mind telling you what I can, but there are some things I can’t talk about, legally.”
“I certainly don’t want you to get into any trouble. Anything you can say, I’m happy with.”
“Okay. So. Not long before my… unplanned exit, from SCW, I signed on with Sparx to model for this new site he was building. I didn’t go looking for this, he approached me at The Starmaker.”
“Tommy Valentine’s club.”
“Correct. And this was not long after the whole mess with that sex video of me being released.”
“Yes, we all remember that.”
“You watched it, didn’t you Dan?” There’s an element of amusement in her voice.
“Maaaaybe I did. Maaaaybe I didn’t.”
“So, yes.”
They both laugh.
“Yes, yes I did. For professional research…” Dan can’t finish the sentence without laughing. “I mean, not only that….”
Kandis laughs again, too. “Hey, its fine. These days its weird if I find someone who hasn’t seen it. And its not like I care. Everyone knows I am shameless. Matter of fact, I sued for the rights to that video and won, so it’s going to be on my new site. Oh… and I’ll break it here first… uncut.”
“Uncut?”
“That’s right, I got the entire video in the lawsuit and other than blurring the man’s face out, I’ll be uploading the entire thing unedited. That however… will not be on the free side. Hint, hint.”
“I think you just got hundreds of new subscriptions.”
“I hope the server can handle it.” Some light laughter. “So, anyway. You asked about Sparx. And note I am not naming the site he had, because it’s now defunct and I can’t name it legally. But y’all know.”
“We know.”
“Right. So, I started work. Doing some pictures and short videos. Met some of the other women he had contracted for the site. Most of them were young. And Dan… I mean…. Young. Like… I questioned their legality-young.”
“Yikes!”
“But, everyone I asked told me they were old enough. One girl though, she was barely over nineteen, and had never done that kind of work before, and she was more nervous than me on top of a ladder.”
“That’s pretty damn nervous.”
“Adding to that….. Jakob was not a very nice guy. He put on a good front, he knew how to sell himself and whatever project he was pushing, but doing the work? Complete. Asshole. No patience. Constantly talked down to the younger women. He tried that with me once, and I threatened to walk out, contract or not. I could afford to buy myself out if necessary. He never got pissy with me again. But them?”
“She’s shaking her head, y’all.”
“They were too scared to say anything. They just took it and did whatever he said.”
“That sounds terrible. Almost like an abusive situation.”
“In some ways, it was. Shortly after I started work, a business partner arrived… he’d prefer to remain anonymous but I can tell you that it’s someone I already knew and did not get along with. He was a private investor, and his people saw some funny stuff in the books, so he came to LA to check things out himself. Imagine my reaction.”
“Given you told me off the record who this person is, I’m pretty sure a lot of colorful language was involved.”
“Exactly. But, eventually I agreed to talk to him for the sake of the job. And we came to an agreement. Be civil for the company, and leave our other disagreements out of it. It turned out to be a good thing that I backed down for once. He found what was wrong in the books.”
“Money laundering?”
“Not exactly. This is the part I can’t go into too much detail, but it had a lot to do with the other women’s contracts, some super fucking illegal clauses, and how they were lied to, to convince them to sign.”
“Hmmm. That almost sounds like some form of trafficking.”
“That’s because that’s what he was eventually charged with. Along with some assault charges based on accusations from two of the women.”
“Did he do it?”
“Do what, the assault?”
“Yeah. What I mean is…. Did you see him do anything like that?”
“Uh… well, the whole thing hasn’t gone to trial yet so I can’t answer that. I’ll be asked in court.”
“Understood. Any idea when that will take place?”
“None whatsoever. His lawyers keep filing for extensions and shit. Just stay tuned, is all I can say at this point.”
“Thanks for telling me what you could. I’ll definitely keep an eye out for more news on that.”
“Maybe when it’s all over I’ll come back on your show and tell some more. If I’m allowed.”
“I’d love that. So, obviously the Sparx site got taken down.”
“Yes.”
“And you weren’t wrestling, so you were essentially out of work. Correct?”
“Yes and no. I’ve been leading classes when time allows at Ante Up Academy in LA. Mostly striking, and sometimes beginner wrestling if someone’s out. There’s also a location in New York. So with both me and Tommy not wrestling, we’d spend some time there every so often. Maybe once a month or so. Great crew we have up there.”
“I assume you also kept up with your artwork?”
“I did! A while back I had a sculpture win a contest to be in an independent movie. The movie was finally released, so there was that premiere. It’s independent so it didn’t make a lot of noise, but I enjoyed it. I did do more canvas work, to try to get a little better at that. I think I’ve made some progress.”
“You mentioned your husband Tommy. He’d been out of action for a lot longer than you, since he took your place in a World Championship match against Selena Frost a few years ago. Can you go into what kept him out of action for so long?”
“Sure. I’ve told this before so he won’t mind me repeating it. Not long after the injury that took me out of that and his loss to her, we were driving around LA minding our business when some kid messing with his phone blew a red light and t-boned my car. Tommy was in the passenger seat and took most of the hit to his arm and shoulder. So that needed treatment and rehab.”
“I remember that. But that was also a few years ago, was it not?”
“It was. The shoulder took a lot longer to recover than anyone planned for or thought. Just one of those things where the tendons didn’t want to cooperate. But Tommy and his physical therapists eventually got that sorted out. While that was being dealt with… well, I came back for a run. Didn’t quite accomplish what I set out to do. And then I was suspended.”
“Right. So, getting back to after the Sparx thing collapsed. You spent more time at Ante Up?”
“I did. Both locations. And more recently, we’ve just expanded to a third location, in North Carolina.”
“That’s where Tommy is from, correct?”
“Yeah. I’d been there a few times for shows, and with him for visits, but I’d never been there for an extended stay…. Until now.”
“And what do you think of good ol’ North Cackalackie?”
Kandis laughs. “Its…. Its not Los Angeles. I guess nowhere is. But I was not prepared for just how different things are.”
“Like what?”
“Everything. Literally everything. The weather, the size of the city, the people, the food, the accents…. It’s almost like another country.”
“I note you haven’t said whether you like it or not.”
Kandis laughs again. “It has it’s good and it’s bad, just like LA. Just in different ways.”
“Fair enough. How is the new Ante Up location coming along? Is it open yet?”
“Not yet, but soon. I’ll let Tommy give out those details though. I might have said too much already.”
“Something tells me he’ll forgive you.”
“Probably.” Both laugh.
“Let’s move on to SCW. Tell me about the grand return. Retribution. The alphabet soup videos.”
“Is that what people called them?”
“It’s what I called them. What did you call them?”
“Word search.”
“Yeah, that makes sense. With the hidden references to other tag teams. Just brilliant stuff there.”
“I’d say thanks, but I can’t take much of the credit. That was a combination of SCW’s team and Tommy.”
“What made you decide now was the time to return, and Tommy with you this time?”
“We’d been watching, of course. Keeping up with who’s holding what titles, who’s kicking who’s ass, all of that. And at the time… Light in the Darkness had a stranglehold on the Tag Titles. Three time champions in a short amount of time, after getting caught twice. Listen, I get it, happened to us. But they rebounded well at Rise to Greatness last year. It’s been nice to see some stability in the division, you know?”
“Right.”
“So…. What better time to come back and destabilize everything?”
Dan laughs. Kandis joins a little. “Of course.”
“No but seriously! Think about it. If we want to get back in there and become champions again and break that damn record… what’s gonna look better? Beating some new or thrown together team who got lucky, or beating a real team with real experience and staying power?”
“I see your point. You wanted to come in and beat the best.”
“Exactly. That plan went out the window when Luz and Amelia lost…. But no matter. We can kick Fall of Man’s ass all the same. They may not be as well established, but they’re headed by someone I know very well, that being James Evans.”
“Were headed. We don’t know if James will be back after last week.”
“That’s a good point but James doesn’t have to be on the road to pull their strings. And taking the titles from them will still be a kick in the dick, seeing as how Tommy and me took the Tag Titles from him and Angelica Jones a few years ago.”
“That’s right, you sure did. Do you think they’ll still be champions by the time you and Tommy inevitably earn your shot?”
“Assuming Light in the Darkness doesn’t get a rematch first? Cause I’d be perfectly fine with that.”
“Yeah, let’s assume that.”
“Okay. Maybe. Or maybe if James is really out, they’ll fall apart without him in their faces to hold them together and someone else will steal the titles.”
“Someone like maybe your opponents this week, European Firey Nation?”
Kandis laughs, hard. “Sorry…. I mean, maybe. They’re violent, I’ll give you that. Strong motherfuckers too. But their string-puller is Konrad Raab, and I don’t put much faith in anyone led by the man who used to literally be led around by a leash and ball gag.”
Dan chuckles. “The Jackals. Do you keep in touch with Minerva and Drake Hemingway?”
“Minerva, no. Drake… of course. Often.” There’s a tone of innuendo in the last word.
“I’m picking up on that, gotcha.”
“But getting back to EFN…. Look. I’ve heard people saying we must be tired of dealing with them. They ruined our return match, we fought them not too long ago and had that ruined as well thanks to The Product and Josh Hudson…”
“Someone else you’re no stranger to.”
“Not at all. So yeah, maybe we’re a little weary of the whole situation. But are we tired of EFN? No. We’re looking forward to Breakdown, going into the Underground, and doing what we do like no one else can.”
“You mention the Underground. Underground rules. That was Tommy’s playground back in the day.”
“It was, and even though I haven’t officially worked that division, or challenged for that championship yet, I’ve had my fair share of those types of matches. The Chamber, an Inferno match. I can get just as down and dirty and violent as Tommy can. Just ask Hudson. I’m sure he recalls the pipe to the head I concussed him with. Oh wait… maybe he doesn’t…. he can ask his pregnant girlfriend to find the footage for him.”
“After your last match and the way Hudson had his protégés The Product attack and try to injure you and Tommy, I’m sure you’d love to take another swing with that pipe, right?”
“Pipe, ring bell, my knee… whatever I can use to knock him the fuck out again. Him and those two projects of his. I don’t care if one of them is his kid, he’ll fall just as hard as Daddy.”
“Some would say The Product could be contenders to the championships you and Tommy would like to hold again. What do you say to that?”
“The same thing I say to the idea that EFN could take them.”
“What’s that?”
Kandis laughs hysterically again.
“Oh… right.”
“Okay… but seriously though. If the kids had another year of experience behind their ears and got Hudson out of them…. Maybe. They seem to have some natural talent. But any time soon? I don’t think so. Not with us out here in the way. We’re not fucking around when we say we’re here for those titles and nothing else. EFN is gonna find out exactly what I mean when we face them at Breakdown. They’ve fucked around enough.”
“With Underground rules in play, do you expect anyone to get involved, as happened in your last two matches since you’ve been back?”
“Of course I do. It wouldn’t be Underground or SCW otherwise. Hudson, his boys, the other EFN goon, even Raab himself. Bring em all out, we don’t care. We’ll knock all of them out like whack-a-mole. And when The Connection is standing tall over a pile of fallen bodies, they’ll all wonder why they decided to fuck around with us in the first place.”
“Well, I for one, can’t wait to find out what will happen at Breakdown.”
Kandis chuckles. “I see what you did there.”
“I knew you would. All right everyone, you’ve been listening to the free portion of Hold for Hold. To hear the rest of my conversation with Kandis, where we get into some, shall we say, after dark topics… make sure to subscribe at the link in the bio.”
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“I’ll come for you anytime, doll.”
“Whoa…. We haven’t switched over yet!”
Both laugh. “Oops.”
The ring bell rings again, and the heavy metal riff plays out….